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A comment [[User:Larry|Larry]] 13:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
: A reply [[User:Sally|Sally]] 16:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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The variable name documentation

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Two different "Important" boxes in this article tell users to "consult the variable name documentation." What does this mean? What "variable name documentation" — and why, specifically, does it need to be consulted? Is this alluding to the comments in the code boxes in this article? (If so, I'm not sure the "Important" boxes are necessary.) Are we talking about checking man pages? Something else? - dcljr (talk) 21:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

it should be link to Handbook:AMD64/Networking/Advanced#Variable_names_and_values , but when it was migrated to wiki, link was lost. --Cronolio (talk) 09:23, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks and good work, Cronolio ! I'll update the link for now. Perhaps soon you will get your quiz done and can update the links yourself. :P --Maffblaster (talk) 23:49, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Sentence correction

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"Of these two," should read "Of these three," (edit-restricted page, so...) DavidC (talk) 14:55, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, DavidC ! It has been fixed. --Maffblaster (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

More intuitive utilities for wireless networking

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I understand using additional tools isn't everyone's thing, but I feel suggesting the lightweight Connman with the usually ~5 commands required to get the connection set up (run the init script, connmanctl, agent on, services, connect <tab>) or maybe Iwd would simplify an average installation very considerably over using wpa_supplicant's arcane syntax. This is something I've seen dozens of people trip over by now, and connman is almost always working fine. I suggest a reference to these tools and Network_management earlier in the guide at Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Tools#Networking_tools, Handbook:AMD64/Full/Networking#Getting_started, and in this page --Rad (talk) 20:06, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

i'm weakly against mentioning tools beyond wpa_supplicant, primarily because this is an area in which people can (and in my experience, do) have opinions that could lead to bikeshedding. "No, not Connman, I've found NetworkManager is best." "No, not NetworkManager, I've found iwd is best." (i'm certainly not a fan of NM, which i've found to be Clever tool - great when it auto-works, but a hassle when it doesn't.) Whatever its UI issues - and i agree that its UI/UX is Less Than Awesome - wpa_supplicant is nevertheless the baseline wireless networking tool on Linux.
But even setting that aside, the current wpa_supplicant.conf file makes it look much more complicated than many, if not most, users will need it to be to get the basics of wifi working. Much of the time, a WPA-PSK-based setup will be sufficient for immediate purposes. And as noted in the "Examples should no longer include TKIP or WEP*" section of this page, long-deprecated WEP* configurations shouldn't be mentioned anyway. So the example wpa_supplicant.conf file could be just e.g.:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ap_scan=1

network={
       ssid="the-access-point"
       key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
       psk="larrythecow"
       priority=5
}
With a subsequent note mentioning that example configurations for, and documentation of, things like EAP-TLS-based setups can be found in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant-2.10-r4/wpa_supplicant.conf.bz2.
-- Flexibeast (talk) 01:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Change networkmanager use flags from "ncurses" to "tools"

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The handbook states that one needs to enable the "ncurses" use flag to download nmtui. However, that tools is enabled with the "tools" use flag. The networkmanager package does not have a "ncurses". Source(s): https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-misc/networkmanager

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lemon-Lime (talkcontribs) 2023-08-09T08:39:13‎

Fixed, thanks! Special:Diff/1026237/1266710. --Maffblaster (talk) 07:05, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Examples should no longer include TKIP or WEP*

.... since they are long past best practice.

Issue noted by ONEEYEMAN in https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8822003.html#8822003.

-- Flexibeast (talk) 08:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Add different way to set up Wi-Fi

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I believe that net-setup should be mentioned here. it is mentioned in Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Networking#Using_net-setup but it is easily missed. Colonia duck (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)