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Account rename performed as requested

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Hello P.Fox (Ris) , your account rename has been performed as requested. Looking forward to seeing more contributions from you on our wiki! Kind regards, --Maffblaster (talk) 05:42, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks !! Has the old account talk page gone ? Ris (talk) 03:20, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
It should have full page history. Looks like there's an edit from April under history. --Maffblaster (talk) 03:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Quite ! My mistake, what I'm looking for was never on this page. Thanks again ! Ris (talk) 03:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

GNU Core Utils and Util-Linux

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I added a large table of all of the binaries in the util-linux package to its wiki page. I think it's a really clean look and it automatically updates with article descriptions as new binary-specific pages get added. Is this something you'd want to "steal" for the GNU Coreutils article? —JGaz (talk) 21:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Wow, I was just thinking about the util-linux for a list - perfect, thanks !! I thought about putting everything in a table for the GNU Coreutils article, but I thought sections would allow for the full usage info and comments... I'm quite some way off writing an article for each command xD.
The "see also" does work to get article descriptions, but I fear there might be an unwritten rule that it should only be used in "see also sections"... not sure, but I used to get that template deleted when I used it anywhere else. It really should be written in the template description though if this is the case... There is a way to use the semantic wiki extension to make tables out of groups of articles, but each article would have to be created...
"Redlinks" (links to nonexistent articles) sometimes get deleted also. Not criticizing, seems great to to me, just warning that it might get changed ;).
-- Ris (talk) 21:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Btw Jeffery Gazso (JGaz) I wrote in the ed article that "vi still has an ex mode, analogous to ed" - I wanted to ask you about that, as I'm not sure that it is really the same thing - do you know ?
Personally I think it is a good idea to list and provide at least some information on each command, like you have started in the gzip article. I'm not sure if having an article for each command for every package will always be the clearest way to present things though... When things are spread out thinly, it can be harder to follow. I actually have on my todo list a few articles that I want to merge together, and I'm worried that a lot of the wiki is currently too spread out and insufficiently referenced/interlinked.
-- Ris (talk) 14:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, the wiki is back up now. I saw that, thanks! As I understand it ex is just a symlink to /usr/bin/vim with some extra switches (somehow?) implicitly passed to it. It's just an editing mode. There is a real version of ed at /bin/ed. Yeah, I'm sure there will be cases where spreading things out will not be helpful. But, I'm on a mission to create stub articles for as many of the basics as possible. My view is that others can build on them and merge them as needed. —JGaz (talk) 00:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


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I believe that careful consideration should be made to these navigation boxes that are being added to pages. They are not easily translated nor setup to be automatically translated like the {{Note}}, {{Tip}}, etc. templates are. As they stand now, on other languages, they stick out poorly and translator users cannot do anything with them. --Grknight (talk) 13:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! Would any of this be workable:
  • Put the template in translate tags, translate it like an article would be translated, then when including them use something like {{NavboxName{{#translation:}}}} ?
  • Just delete the navbox from the translated pages, and have the functionality only for the English articles? I know, not great, but seems like little work for anyone, and shouldn't be missed that much...
  • Is there a way with {{Link}}?
I'll try something out in my userspace, though I'm not sure how cumbersome things could be. -- Ris (talk) 17:07, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to properly explain what I did to give this a go, but I'll try. Also, you probably know much better than myself how all this works, especially since you seem to have fixed what I was trying to do :).
Here are two translated pages, that include the same template, but each page shows the template in the corresponding page's language: English page, French page with translated template.
As far as I can see, all the translator has to do is translate the template, as if it were any other page.
What gets included in the pages is an "intermediary template" which handles selecting the language. There is a "main template" which can be translated just like any page.
I'm very naive about translations on the wiki, so all this is just a suggestion/question. Could anything at all along these lines be able to be adapted to a workable way to translate these templates?
-- Ris (talk) 11:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

"S6" and "S6 and s6-rc-based init system"

i've just done a massive overhaul of these pages, consolidating them into one page, but with the examples extracted:

The "examples" page probably needs various bits of tidying work, but i feel the "S6" page is basically done.

i've done it this way because i couldn't work out a way of making these changes in a more piecemeal manner. But at the same time, i don't want to just drop in such a large change without it being reviewed first. Might you be able to take a look and let me know what you think?

-- Flexibeast (talk) 05:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the account rename

It went perfectly. You're a legend :D

Waldo Lemmer 14:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't know about that xD - but I'm happy if the rename went smoothly :). Sorry that everything is taking so much time currently. Happy editing, and thanks for all the work - I hope I'll get time to check it out a bit soon :) -- Ris (talk) 14:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)