Handbook Talk:Parts/Blocks/Systemd

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Note for eudev vs udev

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Migration from eudev to udev is required, if non-systemd stage3 was used on installation. It also can be noted here. --Cronolio (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Is eudev deprecated now? --Maffblaster (talk) 17:11, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

nope. eudev is a fork of udev without any systemd dependencies or whatever. eudev is default choice for virtual/udev . eudev cannot work in systemd environment. so simple user will have both migration (eudev > udev and openrc > systemd). it can be hard and can be descreabed somewhere --Cronolio (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I understand eudev. My point is that the virtual/udev ebuild describes sys-fs/udev as unnecessary when using systemd. udev is even masked in the systemd profile (see /usr/portage/profiles/targets/systemd/package.mask. Do you still think we need to address this? If not, then please mark this discussion as closed/done. :) Kind regards, --Maffblaster (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
I also don't immediately see what we need to document here. If you start with a non-systemd stage, and you switch to a systemd profile, isn't the migration initiated anyway? And isn't the reference to the systemd page sufficient? --SwifT (talk) 16:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah it was my fail. Small b mean are resolved block.

[uninstall     ] sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5 
[blocks b      ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-6)
[blocks b      ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks b      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks b      ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)

--Cronolio (talk) 16:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)


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Consider the following sentence: "Certain applications are heavily dependent on the Gnome software ecosystem and subsequently dependent on systemd."

Gnome should be replaced by GNOME.

Fturco (talk) 09:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Done! --Maffblaster (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Missing Note template

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I would add a Note template as follows:

Certain applications are heavily dependent on the GNOME software ecosystem and subsequently dependent on systemd. Readers who are unsure if the GNOME desktop environment will be used can migrate to a systemd profile later.

Fturco (talk) 09:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Added as suggested. --Maffblaster (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2017 (UTC)