Handbook Talk:Parts/Blocks/Systemd

Note for eudev vs udev

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Migration from eudev to udev is required, if non-systemd stage3 was used on installation. It also can be noted here. --Cronolio (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Is eudev deprecated now? --Maffblaster (talk) 17:11, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

nope. eudev is a fork of udev without any systemd dependencies or whatever. eudev is default choice for virtual/udev . eudev cannot work in systemd environment. so simple user will have both migration (eudev > udev and openrc > systemd). it can be hard and can be descreabed somewhere --Cronolio (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I understand eudev. My point is that the virtual/udev ebuild describes sys-fs/udev as unnecessary when using systemd. udev is even masked in the systemd profile (see /usr/portage/profiles/targets/systemd/package.mask. Do you still think we need to address this? If not, then please mark this discussion as closed/done. :) Kind regards, --Maffblaster (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

I also don't immediately see what we need to document here. If you start with a non-systemd stage, and you switch to a systemd profile, isn't the migration initiated anyway? And isn't the reference to the systemd page sufficient? --SwifT (talk) 16:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah it was my fail. Small b mean are resolved block.

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[uninstall     ] sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5 
[blocks b      ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-6)
[blocks b      ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks b      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5)
[blocks b      ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-226-r2)

--Cronolio (talk) 16:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

GNOME

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This discussion is done as of 2017-05-14.

Consider the following sentence: "Certain applications are heavily dependent on the Gnome software ecosystem and subsequently dependent on systemd."

Gnome should be replaced by GNOME.

Fturco (talk) 09:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Done! --Maffblaster (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Missing Note template

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I would add a Note template as follows:

Note
Certain applications are heavily dependent on the GNOME software ecosystem and subsequently dependent on systemd. Readers who are unsure if the GNOME desktop environment will be used can migrate to a systemd profile later.

Fturco (talk) 09:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Added as suggested. --Maffblaster (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2017 (UTC)