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== Suggested Addition "How to Set Up a Desktop" ==
{{Talk|closed|date=October 27, 2021}}
A link to a page with instructions toward building a desktop, similar to building the base Gentoo system.
It took me hours to figure out that a desktop needs:
# a display manager
# a window manager
and even after I had installed a DM and a WM, the desktop still wouldn't get going because I didn't know I had to install ..
...X11 drivers for video, keyboard and mouse! --doh!!!
With clear instructions like the base Gentoo system, time taken would have been at most another 30mins.
This would be most helpful for noobs like myself ;) . --[[User:Russelld|Russelld]] ([[User talk:Russelld|talk]]) 12:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
: Sounds like a good idea to at least mention the building blocks of a desktop system in the Handbook. The [[Xorg/Guide|Xorg guide]] used to serve the function of at least helping users get Xorg going (then building a WM or DE on top of it). I'll add a snippet mentioning the steps that are usually necessary to configure a graphical desktop. Thanks, {{U|Russelld}}! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 17:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
: This has finally been implemented; however I did so differently than originally stated before. The approach I took was to link our readers to other areas of the wiki that provide relevant documentation. Since Xorg is being phased out by Wayland, and many [[Desktop environment|DEs]] are in process, it would unnecessarily increase maintenance burden to duplicate the efforts of other article around the wiki. See [[Special:Diff/1023639/1023669]]. --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 17:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
== Stage files may be .xz ==
{{Talk|closed|date=January 2, 2019}}
The command for removing a stage file from the root directory should be adjusted
so that it works for .xz as well as .bz2 files.
--[[User:Rafo|Rafo]] ([[User talk:Rafo|talk]]) 22:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
: Fixed. Thank you! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 08:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
== Discord Server ==
{{Talk|closed|date=October 26, 2021}}
Just found this on b.g.o.: {{bug|694010}}
<br>--[[User:Charles17|Charles17]] ([[User talk:Charles17|talk]]) 05:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{bug|694010}} was voted on and closed as WONTFIX. This discussion is has ended; we will not be adding links to Discord servers (a closed source, closed stack software) to the Handbook or anywhere else on official Gentoo sites at this time. --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 20:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
== Suggested addition of doas as a sudo alternative ==
{{Talk|closed|date=October 27, 2021}}
I believe adding doas as a sudo alternative here would be beneficial, as it would only take about a line and it would be inline with the plethora of choices Gentoo gives to the user.
--[[User:Linobigatti|Linobigatti]] ([[User talk:Linobigatti|talk]]) 01:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
: This suggestion has been implemented as recommended. See [[Special:Diff/950178/1023639]]. Thanks! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 17:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
== Warn about similar passwords to root ==
{{Talk|closed|date=2024-01-02}}
In '''Adding a user for daily use''' section, warn about setting same or similar password to root user out of convenience. -- [[User:Gso321|Gso321]] ([[User talk:Gso321|talk]]) 01:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
: Good suggestion. Implemented here: [[Special:Diff/1267587/1272180]]. --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 06:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
== Suggested addition of adding user to cron group ==
{{talk|closed|date=2024-01-02}}
I believe it would be beneficial to add a small section that said "If a cron provider was installed, then the users who wish to use it must be in the <cron> group". Something along those line I was thinking either here or in the "Installing tools" section. [[User:Lemon-Lime|Lemon-Lime]] ([[User talk:Lemon-Lime|talk]])
: Your suggestion has been implemented along with a few other improvements to the list of groups in the table. See [[Special:Diff/1272180/1272202]]. Thank you! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 07:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)' |
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== Suggested Addition "How to Set Up a Desktop" ==
{{Talk|closed|date=October 27, 2021}}
A link to a page with instructions toward building a desktop, similar to building the base Gentoo system.
It took me hours to figure out that a desktop needs:
# a display manager
# a window manager
and even after I had installed a DM and a WM, the desktop still wouldn't get going because I didn't know I had to install ..
...X11 drivers for video, keyboard and mouse! --doh!!!
With clear instructions like the base Gentoo system, time taken would have been at most another 30mins.
This would be most helpful for noobs like myself ;) . --[[User:Russelld|Russelld]] ([[User talk:Russelld|talk]]) 12:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
: Sounds like a good idea to at least mention the building blocks of a desktop system in the Handbook. The [[Xorg/Guide|Xorg guide]] used to serve the function of at least helping users get Xorg going (then building a WM or DE on top of it). I'll add a snippet mentioning the steps that are usually necessary to configure a graphical desktop. Thanks, {{U|Russelld}}! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 17:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
: This has finally been implemented; however I did so differently than originally stated before. The approach I took was to link our readers to other areas of the wiki that provide relevant documentation. Since Xorg is being phased out by Wayland, and many [[Desktop environment|DEs]] are in process, it would unnecessarily increase maintenance burden to duplicate the efforts of other article around the wiki. See [[Special:Diff/1023639/1023669]]. --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 17:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
== Stage files may be .xz ==
{{Talk|closed|date=January 2, 2019}}
The command for removing a stage file from the root directory should be adjusted
so that it works for .xz as well as .bz2 files.
--[[User:Rafo|Rafo]] ([[User talk:Rafo|talk]]) 22:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
: Fixed. Thank you! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 08:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
== Discord Server ==
{{Talk|closed|date=October 26, 2021}}
Just found this on b.g.o.: {{bug|694010}}
<br>--[[User:Charles17|Charles17]] ([[User talk:Charles17|talk]]) 05:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
: {{bug|694010}} was voted on and closed as WONTFIX. This discussion is has ended; we will not be adding links to Discord servers (a closed source, closed stack software) to the Handbook or anywhere else on official Gentoo sites at this time. --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 20:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
== Suggested addition of doas as a sudo alternative ==
{{Talk|closed|date=October 27, 2021}}
I believe adding doas as a sudo alternative here would be beneficial, as it would only take about a line and it would be inline with the plethora of choices Gentoo gives to the user.
--[[User:Linobigatti|Linobigatti]] ([[User talk:Linobigatti|talk]]) 01:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
: This suggestion has been implemented as recommended. See [[Special:Diff/950178/1023639]]. Thanks! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 17:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
== Warn about similar passwords to root ==
{{Talk|closed|date=2024-01-02}}
In '''Adding a user for daily use''' section, warn about setting same or similar password to root user out of convenience. -- [[User:Gso321|Gso321]] ([[User talk:Gso321|talk]]) 01:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
: Good suggestion. Implemented here: [[Special:Diff/1267587/1272180]]. --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 06:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
== Suggested addition of adding user to cron group ==
{{talk|closed|date=2024-01-02}}
I believe it would be beneficial to add a small section that said "If a cron provider was installed, then the users who wish to use it must be in the <cron> group". Something along those line I was thinking either here or in the "Installing tools" section. [[User:Lemon-Lime|Lemon-Lime]] ([[User talk:Lemon-Lime|talk]])
: Your suggestion has been implemented along with a few other improvements to the list of groups in the table. See [[Special:Diff/1272180/1272202]]. Thank you! --[[User:Maffblaster|Maffblaster]] ([[User talk:Maffblaster|talk]]) 07:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
== Suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured ==
In '''Adding a user for daily use''' section, for added security suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured. See references:<br>
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sudo#Disable_root_login<br>
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Security#Restricting_root_login<br>
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Sudo<br>
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1 Suggested Addition "How to Set Up a Desktop"
2 Stage files may be .xz
3 Discord Server
4 Suggested addition of doas as a sudo alternative
5 Warn about similar passwords to root
6 Suggested addition of adding user to cron group
7 Suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured
Suggested Addition "How to Set Up a Desktop"[edit source]
Talk status
This discussion is done as of October 27, 2021.
A link to a page with instructions toward building a desktop, similar to building the base Gentoo system.
It took me hours to figure out that a desktop needs:
a display manager
a window manager
and even after I had installed a DM and a WM, the desktop still wouldn't get going because I didn't know I had to install ..
...X11 drivers for video, keyboard and mouse! --doh!!!
With clear instructions like the base Gentoo system, time taken would have been at most another 30mins.
This would be most helpful for noobs like myself ;) . --Russelld (talk) 12:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea to at least mention the building blocks of a desktop system in the Handbook. The Xorg guide used to serve the function of at least helping users get Xorg going (then building a WM or DE on top of it). I'll add a snippet mentioning the steps that are usually necessary to configure a graphical desktop. Thanks, Russelld ! --Maffblaster (talk) 17:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
This has finally been implemented; however I did so differently than originally stated before. The approach I took was to link our readers to other areas of the wiki that provide relevant documentation. Since Xorg is being phased out by Wayland, and many DEs are in process, it would unnecessarily increase maintenance burden to duplicate the efforts of other article around the wiki. See Special:Diff/1023639/1023669. --Maffblaster (talk) 17:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Stage files may be .xz[edit source]
Talk status
This discussion is done as of January 2, 2019.
The command for removing a stage file from the root directory should be adjusted
so that it works for .xz as well as .bz2 files.
--Rafo (talk) 22:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Fixed. Thank you! --Maffblaster (talk) 08:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Discord Server[edit source]
Talk status
This discussion is done as of October 26, 2021.
Just found this on b.g.o.: bug #694010
--Charles17 (talk) 05:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
bug #694010 was voted on and closed as WONTFIX. This discussion is has ended; we will not be adding links to Discord servers (a closed source, closed stack software) to the Handbook or anywhere else on official Gentoo sites at this time. --Maffblaster (talk) 20:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Suggested addition of doas as a sudo alternative[edit source]
Talk status
This discussion is done as of October 27, 2021.
I believe adding doas as a sudo alternative here would be beneficial, as it would only take about a line and it would be inline with the plethora of choices Gentoo gives to the user.
--Linobigatti (talk) 01:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
This suggestion has been implemented as recommended. See Special:Diff/950178/1023639. Thanks! --Maffblaster (talk) 17:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Warn about similar passwords to root[edit source]
Talk status
This discussion is done as of 2024-01-02.
In Adding a user for daily use section, warn about setting same or similar password to root user out of convenience. -- Gso321 (talk) 01:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Good suggestion. Implemented here: Special:Diff/1267587/1272180. --Maffblaster (talk) 06:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Suggested addition of adding user to cron group[edit source]
Talk status
This discussion is done as of 2024-01-02.
I believe it would be beneficial to add a small section that said "If a cron provider was installed, then the users who wish to use it must be in the <cron> group". Something along those line I was thinking either here or in the "Installing tools" section. Lemon-Lime (talk)
Your suggestion has been implemented along with a few other improvements to the list of groups in the table. See Special:Diff/1272180/1272202. Thank you! --Maffblaster (talk) 07:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured[edit source]
In Adding a user for daily use section, for added security suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured. See references:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sudo#Disable_root_login
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Security#Restricting_root_login
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Sudo
--Lucatrv (talk) 21:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)' |
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<p>A link to a page with instructions toward building a desktop, similar to building the base Gentoo system.
</p><p>It took me hours to figure out that a desktop needs:
</p>
<ol><li>a display manager</li>
<li>a window manager</li></ol>
<p>and even after I had installed a DM and a WM, the desktop still wouldn't get going because I didn't know I had to install ..
</p><p>...X11 drivers for video, keyboard and mouse! --doh!!!
</p><p>With clear instructions like the base Gentoo system, time taken would have been at most another 30mins.
</p><p>This would be most helpful for noobs like myself ;) . --<a href="/wiki/User:Russelld" title="User:Russelld">Russelld</a> (<a href="/index.php?title=User_talk:Russelld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Russelld (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 12:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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<dl><dd>Sounds like a good idea to at least mention the building blocks of a desktop system in the Handbook. The <a href="/wiki/Xorg/Guide" title="Xorg/Guide">Xorg guide</a> used to serve the function of at least helping users get Xorg going (then building a WM or DE on top of it). I'll add a snippet mentioning the steps that are usually necessary to configure a graphical desktop. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Russelld" title="User:Russelld">Russelld <i class="fa fa-user"></i></a>! --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 17:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)</dd></dl>
<dl><dd>This has finally been implemented; however I did so differently than originally stated before. The approach I took was to link our readers to other areas of the wiki that provide relevant documentation. Since Xorg is being phased out by Wayland, and many <a href="/wiki/Desktop_environment" title="Desktop environment">DEs</a> are in process, it would unnecessarily increase maintenance burden to duplicate the efforts of other article around the wiki. See <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1023639/1023669" title="Special:Diff/1023639/1023669">Special:Diff/1023639/1023669</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 17:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)</dd></dl>
<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Stage_files_may_be_.xz">Stage files may be .xz</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/index.php?title=Handbook_Talk:AMD64/Installation/Finalizing&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Stage files may be .xz">edit source</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2>
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<p>The command for removing a stage file from the root directory should be adjusted
so that it works for .xz as well as .bz2 files.
</p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Rafo" title="User:Rafo">Rafo</a> (<a href="/index.php?title=User_talk:Rafo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Rafo (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 22:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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<dl><dd>Fixed. Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 08:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</dd></dl>
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<p>Just found this on b.g.o.: <span class="plainlinks" style="color: MidnightBlue; font-family: monospace; font-size: 95%;" title="External link to https://bugs.gentoo.org."><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694010"><span style="color: MidnightBlue;">bug #694010</span></a><span style="color: grey; margin-left: 0.1em; font-size: 70%;" class="fa fa-bug fa-fw"></span></span>
<br />--<a href="/wiki/User:Charles17" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Charles17">Charles17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Charles17" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Charles17">talk</a>) 05:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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<dl><dd><span class="plainlinks" style="color: MidnightBlue; font-family: monospace; font-size: 95%;" title="External link to https://bugs.gentoo.org."><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694010"><span style="color: MidnightBlue;">bug #694010</span></a><span style="color: grey; margin-left: 0.1em; font-size: 70%;" class="fa fa-bug fa-fw"></span></span> was voted on and closed as WONTFIX. This discussion is has ended; we will not be adding links to Discord servers (a closed source, closed stack software) to the Handbook or anywhere else on official Gentoo sites at this time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 20:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)</dd></dl>
<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Suggested_addition_of_doas_as_a_sudo_alternative">Suggested addition of doas as a sudo alternative</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/index.php?title=Handbook_Talk:AMD64/Installation/Finalizing&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Suggested addition of doas as a sudo alternative">edit source</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2>
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<p>I believe adding doas as a sudo alternative here would be beneficial, as it would only take about a line and it would be inline with the plethora of choices Gentoo gives to the user.
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<dl><dd>This suggestion has been implemented as recommended. See <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/950178/1023639" title="Special:Diff/950178/1023639">Special:Diff/950178/1023639</a>. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 17:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)</dd></dl>
<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Warn_about_similar_passwords_to_root">Warn about similar passwords to root</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/index.php?title=Handbook_Talk:AMD64/Installation/Finalizing&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Warn about similar passwords to root">edit source</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2>
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<p>In <b>Adding a user for daily use</b> section, warn about setting same or similar password to root user out of convenience. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gso321" title="User:Gso321">Gso321</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gso321" title="User talk:Gso321">talk</a>) 01:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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<dl><dd>Good suggestion. Implemented here: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1267587/1272180" title="Special:Diff/1267587/1272180">Special:Diff/1267587/1272180</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 06:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</dd></dl>
<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Suggested_addition_of_adding_user_to_cron_group">Suggested addition of adding user to cron group</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/index.php?title=Handbook_Talk:AMD64/Installation/Finalizing&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Suggested addition of adding user to cron group">edit source</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2>
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<p>I believe it would be beneficial to add a small section that said "If a cron provider was installed, then the users who wish to use it must be in the <cron> group". Something along those line I was thinking either here or in the "Installing tools" section. <a href="/index.php?title=User:Lemon-Lime&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lemon-Lime (page does not exist)">Lemon-Lime</a> (<a href="/index.php?title=User_talk:Lemon-Lime&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Lemon-Lime (page does not exist)">talk</a>)
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<dl><dd>Your suggestion has been implemented along with a few other improvements to the list of groups in the table. See <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1272180/1272202" title="Special:Diff/1272180/1272202">Special:Diff/1272180/1272202</a>. Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Maffblaster" title="User:Maffblaster">Maffblaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maffblaster" title="User talk:Maffblaster">talk</a>) 07:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</dd></dl>
<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Suggest_to_disable_root_login_after_sudo_or_doas_have_been_configured">Suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/index.php?title=Handbook_Talk:AMD64/Installation/Finalizing&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured">edit source</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2>
<p>In <b>Adding a user for daily use</b> section, for added security suggest to disable root login after sudo or doas have been configured. See references:<br />
<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sudo#Disable_root_login">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sudo#Disable_root_login</a><br />
<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Security#Restricting_root_login">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Security#Restricting_root_login</a><br />
<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Sudo">https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Sudo</a><br />
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