Gentoo Wiki:Suggestions/Archive 1

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Completed small tasks for admins
--Astaecker 13:15, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Category:Gentoo Wiki - Rename to "Category:Contents|Root|Top level"
 * File:Larry-hi.png - Add CC-by-sa-2.5 template; add source?
 * File:IconDisc.png - Add CC-by-sa-3.0 template.
 * File:IconPrinter.png - Add CC-by-sa-3.0 template.
 * Main Page - Add category, maybe the new top level category.
 * Template:= - Add Documentation template.
 * "Template:Infobox/row" - Delete; it was an mistake.
 * Template:LinkBox - Add Documentation template.
 * Template:Note - Add Documentation template.
 * MediaWiki:helppage - Change to Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents --Astaecker 12:41, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

all of the above done --A3li 20:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Dated Template
A template to mark information as dated, or possibly dated would bevery useful.

eg. {Dated|2011-10-25|This information is probably out of date. If you can, please test and update the article}

would be more useful than

eg. {Warning|This information is probably out of date. If you can, please test and update the article}

Where the date is missing. Hangfire 22:07, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * This one was easy enough ;) Dated a3li

Translating URL resulting in error
Necessity to insert several URLs pointing outside in to the translation resulting in error. Seems like inserting URLs on the english page prompts captcha, but on translation page - it's not available, so can not pass verification, can not submit block translation. On the BIOS Update page search for "TODO" :)mitri 02:51, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * fixed :)mitri 16:40, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Updating page doesn't change percent of translation
Updating English page Gentoo Wiki:Sandbox does not affect percent of translation for existing translated articles :)mitri 02:51, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * <@a3li> pages need purging (as discussed in IRC) :)mitri 15:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Relationship with existing Gentoo Wikis
Duplicating effort and spreading documentation across more sites isn't beneficial, just increases the likelihood that things will rot or misinformation will be found. If the infrastructure for this site is good, I'd like to see the existing wikis folded into this slowly, with editing and culling as required. This may be difficult based on licenses --Mark alec 13:53, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * See Gentoo Wiki:Meetings/2011-10-17, topic 2. Astaecker 07:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Top level categories
Categories for several things like templates, hardware, software etc. Disi 07:14, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * See Gentoo Wiki:Meetings/2011-10-17, topic 4. Astaecker 07:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Policies
Is there already some kind of policy decided? --Astaecker 08:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Internationalization (i18n):
 * As the "translate" extension is installed, I guess you decided on the "top (english) -> down (other languages)" approach.
 * How should the i18n-sites be named?
 * subpages: SITENAME/de / SITENAME/Deutsch
 * Translate extension's method
 * Astaecker vote
 * See Gentoo Wiki:Meetings/2011-10-17, topic 5. Astaecker 07:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * regular pages with i18n extension: SITENAME (de) / SITENAME (Deutsch)
 * Where to position the i18n-links? Goal: i18n-readers want to read the page in their language. --Astaecker 10:29, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * sidebar: unused space, non-distractive for english readers, but not-easy-to-spot for i18n-readers; Wikipedia's solution
 * top: easy-to-spot for i18n-readers, but distractive for english readers;
 * Astaecker vote
 * bottom: non-distractive for english readers, but not-easy-to-spot for i18n-readers
 * Use of Special:MyLanguage for internal links? --Astaecker 12:36, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * template to easy writing internal links.
 * Navigation: (the sidebar and the main page should be enhanced)
 * by categories
 * Astaecker vote. For example "main page" see http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Hauptseite
 * : See Gentoo Wiki:Meetings/2011-10-17, topic 4. Astaecker 07:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * by index pages

Copy MediaWiki's User's Guide
How about copying Mediawiki's Users Guide here. This guide is intended to be copied to new wikis, see Mediawikiwiki:Project:PD help. We are already linking to parts of it in our help pages. --Astaecker 07:34, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * See Gentoo Wiki:Meetings/2011-10-17, topic 6. Astaecker 07:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Kernel configuration template
done Kernel --A3li 09:53, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

RSS/Atom extension
RSS/Atom extension: To follow the ongoing expansion, please install the RSS extension.
 * A bot reports all changes to the irc channel. As i'm not so much an irc user, I still hope for a rss extension. --Astaecker 09:56, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Reading its description page, it displays an RSS feed. How would you use that to track progress?
 * With RSS I don't have to check "Recent changes" myself, KDE Akregator (or whatever) is doing it for me. --Astaecker 11:20, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There's an atom feed already available: http://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=atom Can you use that? --A3li 11:25, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, didn't know, Mediawiki has a default atom feed. Nice. Done. --Astaecker 11:28, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Enhanced preformatted template for code blocks

 * done File and Code --A3li 09:53, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * How about a syntax hightlighting enhanced File template ? See this for an example. For this, we need the SyntaxHighlight GeSHi extension. --Astaecker 07:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * More than one line for the RootCmd and Cmd? Disi 09:41, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * should work --A3li 10:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * hey, that works but the line spacing goes weird in the last line, I saw Astaecker set up some custom Cmd for more than one command, is that going to become available? Disi 07:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Done --Astaecker 12:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * could you include a  tag for the commands, codes and shells? Disi 08:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That would disable any formatting people could make to highlight certain parts in the code. Not sure we want this --A3li 10:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Template for stdout/stderror terminal messages --Hwoarang 10:10, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * use GenericCmd --A3li 10:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Note template
Notes template, and probably different templates for each type ( warning, important, information ) like those we have in gorg-xml
 * done? Note and Warning are available --A3li 10:35, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * any way to increase the padding around the template environments, especially below them? Using them makes a page look rather busy (for example). --Hypnos 06:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Spacing should be the same as for one regular paragraph now. --A3li 12:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Add link to kernel guide to kernel template
How about a "how to configure the kernel" link in Kernel template caption bar? Also a "how to edit a file" link in the file template caption bar? --Astaecker 09:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The new content boxes can display additional links. I've added a sample link to Kernel. Not sure if we need that for editing files, I expect people to know that. Maybe link to a Category:Editors if we have something like that one day. --A3li 12:50, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice. We should do it even for File and link to nano, because this is at the moment the default editor. This will be good for newbies. Pros will never click on the link. --Astaecker 12:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Unlock templates
Unlock templates. As long as the beta wiki is password protected, please unlock the templates, so everybody can enhanced the templates. The fear of abuse is in this phase IMO counterproductive. I, for example, wanted to write some template documentation. --Astaecker 09:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * for the time being unlocked. just don't break them. Oh, and if you want to use the standard transcluding mediawiki template doc stuff, please don't use that ugly "i" icon. ;) --A3li 10:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

InfoBox templates
I suggest templates for an infobox in the top-right corner of the article. The templates have different purposes:
 * External docs: Link to common high-profile external documenation, like Wikipedia (most often it is better to link Wikipedia instead of writing your own introductions) or Gentoo documentation (good howtos).
 * Article status: Tag articles as "wikify" (article needs formatting), "outdated", "delete" (article can be removed) or add open Todo items. This helps readers finding out, if the article is worth reading. Editors have work items.
 * Talk status: Tag discussions as open or done to help readers and article editors finding open discussions.
 * User boxes: To show information about yourself, contact infos, your role (e.g. developer) and your spoken languages (for translation effort).

The templates are stacked in one single infobox.

You find the templates at my user page.

Note: I will change "Infobox" to the camel case "InfoBox" to be in line with MessageBox and ContentBox.

--Astaecker 09:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Small tasks for admins II
Make user private sandbox pages with a link in toolbox section or next to the login at the top of the page for easy discoveribility. --Rei4dan 21:27, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The global sandbox is linked in the navigation bar now --A3li 14:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Use "My " just in the first of the links in top-right corner, making it shorter and without repetition: My talk, prefereences, watchlist, contributions. --Rei4dan 12:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This is part of the mediawiki strings that I'd rather not change. --A3li 14:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

USEflag template
maximum 20 USE flags is not enough... TeX Live
 * Split the use flags into function groups. See Wine. Astaecker 09:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * cheers, I hope that makes sense how I grouped them :) Disi 11:32, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Split Category:Server_and_Security
Could we split the category Category:Server_and_Security to Category:Server and Category:Security? /Ni1s 14:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I second that motion. On Gentoo we know these two are not the same and you can mix and match these two together or with other settings. --Hook 17:46, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to limit the number of top level categories. Of course Server and Security are two different things, but very much related. They're staying together for the time being for the sake of simplicity. —a3li 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)