Handbook Talk:AMD64/Installation/Tools

warning about not using logrotate
Should be mensioned that if app-admin/sysklogd OR app-admin/syslog-ng is used that logs won't be cleared automatically like on meta-log by default.

Current warning is not efficient enough.

Kreyren (talk) 21:30, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

It already says this. --Grknight (talk) 18:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

systemd's journal
Link on journal of systemd should be added for the user to know how to use it.

Kreyren (talk) 21:30, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


 * A note was added at some point to mention systemd's journald service. Explaining how to use goes beyond the scope of the Handbook. --Maffblaster (talk) 11:35, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Installing system tools
I'd recommend having a highlight box around the statement which reads "If sysklogd or syslog-ng are going to be used.." to make it stand out more with regard to the need for logrotate. Not only this, but I'd also mention that logrotate is rather redundant without a cron daemon, and I personally have fallen into the trap of having some large log files stall a working system because something spammed the system-log to death [literally!] !

-- veremit (talk) 02:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, I used the Tip template for it, and linked to logrotate immediately as that page also mentions the use of cron. --SwifT (talk) 16:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

USE flag conflict
emerge --ask net-wireless/iw net-wireless/wpa_supplicant complains

!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "sys-apps/dbus" has unmet requirements. - sys-apps/dbus-1.10.24::gentoo USE="X test -debug -doc -elogind (-selinux) - static-libs -systemd -user-session" ABI_X86="(64) - 32 (-X32)" The following REQUIERED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: test? ( debug ) The above constraints are a subset of the following complete expressions: at-most-one-of ( elogind systemd ) test? ( debug ) (dependency required by "net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.6-r6::gentoo[dbus]" [ebuild]) (dependency required by "net-wireless/wpa_supplicant" [argument])

-- necktwi (talk) 17:24, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


 * This mean if you have use flag are enabled then you should also enable use flag. use flag is not required for standard gentoo usage. --Cronolio (talk) 18:49, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

is set as a Portage feature. So remove  as a value from FEATURES in. This is not an issue with our documentation. This is a support question. Please refer to or the mailing list for support. --Maffblaster (talk) 20:43, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Isn't it productive to update the documentation with the suggestion on  option that avoids this error so that new users don't have to get sidetracked from the installation in search of the solution?

Handbook:AMD64/Working/USE --Cronolio (talk) 11:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * By having FEATURES set at all, the user already has sidetracked from the installation process. This is never a issue for anyone following the Handbook to install Gentoo...  is not set in FEATURES by default, nor is it recommended anywhere in the installation section of the Handbook. FEATURES can be reviewed by reading  on a user's local PC and if it is unclear then support can be obtained via the proper channels or by reading other Portage related documentation here on the wiki (see Portage,, Handbook:AMD64/Full/Working, etc.).


 * You can review the whole installation section right here and see that Portage's FEATURES variable is not mentioned. Make sense? --Maffblaster (talk) 18:37, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Setting the  preset has given the error. I have reset to. But I want to debug  kernel modules. Should I need  preset?

trivial typo
"choose this package based on it's logging potential": it's should be its. Niku (talk) 06:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * complete, thanks for noticing. --Grknight (talk) 13:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Redundant networking tools section
I suggest replacing/merging Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Tools with a reminder to download and prepare the networking tools in Handbook:AMD64/Full/Networking and/or Network_management prior to rebooting. IMO, it is just confusing to have a triplicate mini-section on networking. --Rad (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2019 (UTC)