Handbook Talk:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader

GRUB2 os-prober
I think it's worth mentioning that the os-prober package needs to be emerged for the grub installer to detect other OSes (Windows for eg)


 * I mentioned it in a tip. Thanks for the suggestion! --Maffblaster (talk) 18:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

GRUB2 all platforms
It should be made very clear that the boot partition should be mounted prior to using the grub2-install command. Without mounting the boot partition, grub2-install will say it has installed successfully with no error, leaving you with a non-bootable system.


 * Pickledpiper, Please remember to sign your comments on discussion pages. :) I will look into your concern. If a note is necessary, then I will add one. :) --Maffblaster (talk) 17:39, 4 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Looking into this more, the Mounting section of the Disks part deals with mounting . We (the Handbook maintainers) expect newcomers to read the Installation section of the Handbook from beginning to end, section-to-section. As long as they follow the necessary steps (which are provided) the partition is available. I may consider adding a note to remount the partition if the system is using one, but for now I'm marking this discussion as done. --Maffblaster (talk) 19:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

GRUB UEFI instructions needed
New to wiki and gentoo, so sorry if this is the wrong place/I format this comment wrong.

In any case, the grub instructions should either link to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2#UEFI_with_GPT or talk about how you have to emerge with GRUB_PLATFORMS="efi-32 efi-64" (one of those two) and possibly use --target x86_64_efi. This took me much too long to figure out as a noob.

Mordocai (talk) 07:39, 24 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the comment. The instructions for GPT/EFI have been cleaned up quite a bit. We also have links to the GRUB2 article in various places. I believe this resolves your issue. Kind regards, --Maffblaster (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Grub2 install UEFI fails from minimal CD
When using UEFI: grub2-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot

Note: this step fails when running from a minimal CD booted in BIOS (legacy) mode. This is because the efivars module is not available there. See for example

A fix for this is to install from a Gentoo Hybrid ISO (LiveDVD) booted through UEFI.

syslinux should be proposed here
Why syslinux has never be proposed as bootloader for Gentoo Linux? It is a mature, versatile, complete and lightweight bootloader. Also, it respect the KISS principle.

There are reason to exclude it?


 * I would agree, syslinux has stayed contemporary and is probably more widely used than LILO. Reason we haven't touched it is because of lack of interest and/or manpower on the docs/wiki teams. I would consider adding a least a reference to it as a possible alternative. One reason I don't believe it's wise to include an entire section here in the handbook is that there's not a simple, straightforward way to install syslinux because there are a lot of different options. What would you suggest as the command(s) required to install/configure it if was included in the Handbook for MBR or GPT/EFI systems? --Maffblaster (talk) 18:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Incomplete umount on recent kernels
Recent kernels mount some "cgroup" stuff within the chroot in, which causes the final to fail due to the mounted sub paths. I'd suggest to replace

with

which recursively umounts everything mounted in.


 * Good suggestion. I'll need to make sure though that recursive unmounts work properly. An alternative that I found online was to use something like the following:
 * --SwifT (talk) 08:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * --SwifT (talk) 08:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I think we'd all agree the Handbooks should be kept as simple as possible, but not simpler. :) I'm liking the option and would vouch for that as long as it works as implied. I ran a test on my system and it worked nicely for me. Can you also test, ? --Maffblaster (talk) 15:57, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Since there's been no reply for a few months, and this worked well for me on official installation media in my testing environments, I will implement the suggestion. Kind regards, --Maffblaster (talk) 14:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Incomplete Grub2 EFI installation command
When using

the GRUB2 installation is not complete. Booting this system fails.

would be the correct way to install GRUB2 (if you chose grub as your bootloader id).

Information for systemd users needed in Grub2 section
I would at least link to: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd#GRUB_2

Also adding a mention about the usage of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX would probably help a lot to other people to migrate from old grub specially when needing to append kernel options

Thanks